Jonathan Winks Jonathan Winks - 1 year ago 83
C++ Question

The actor model: Why is erlang special? Or, why do you need another language for it?

I've been looking into learning erlang, and as a result, have been reading (okay, skimming) about the actor model.

From what I understand, the actor model is simply a set of functions (run within lightweight threads called "processes" in erlang), which communicate with each other only via message passing.

This seems fairly trivial to implement in C++, or any other language:

class BaseActor {
std::queue<BaseMessage*> messages;
CriticalSection messagecs;
BaseMessage* Pop();
void Push(BaseMessage* message)
auto scopedlock = messagecs.AquireScopedLock();
virtual void ActorFn() = 0;
virtual ~BaseActor() {} = 0;

With each of your processes being an instance of a derived BaseActor. Actors communicate with each other only via message-passing. (namely, pushing). Actors register themselves with a central map on initialization which allows other actors to find them, and allows a central function to run through them.

Now, I understand I'm missing, or rather, glossing over one important issue here, namely:
lack of yielding means a single Actor can unfairly consume excessive time. But are cross-platform coroutines the primary thing that makes this hard in C++? (Windows for instance has fibers.)

Is there anything else I'm missing, though, or is the model really this obvious?

I'm definitely not trying to start a flame war here, I just want to understand what I'm missing, as this is essentially what I already do to be able to somewhat reason about concurrent code.

Answer Source

The C++ code does not deal with fairness, isolation, fault detection or distribution which are all things which Erlang brings as part of its actor model.

  • No actor is allowed to starve any other actor (fairness)
  • If one actor crashes, it should only affect that actor (isolation)
  • If one actor crashes, other actors should be able to detect and react to that crash (fault detection)
  • Actors should be able to communicate over a network as if they were on the same machine (distribution)

Also the beam SMP emulator brings JIT scheduling of the actors, moving them to the core which is at the moment the one with least utilization and also hibernates the threads on certain cores if they are no longer needed.

In addition all the libraries and tools written in Erlang can assume that this is the way the world works and be designed accordingly.

These things are not impossible to do in C++, but they get increasingly hard if you add the fact that Erlang works on almost all of the major hw and os configurations.

edit: Just found a description by Ulf Wiger about what he sees erlang style concurrency as.

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